What happened to the Recipe Exchange?

tdorst · #1 (**permalink**) October 13th, 2005, 07:04 PM

It used to be a good forum for requesting and exchanging recipes, many of them personal. It seems to have turned into the b-man/kitchen witch "who can cut and paste more recipes from other sites on the internet" battle. Maybe this kind of board flooding can go on in a different forum? Maybe just put a limit to the size of floods allowed?

persephone1946 · #2 (**permalink**) October 14th, 2005, 01:57 PM

We have an extensive library of recipes because of the postings. You can find most anything you want using the search option.

Have a good day.
AJ

admin · #3 (**permalink**) October 14th, 2005, 02:35 PM

It is still a good forum for requesting and exchanging recipes. The Recipe Exchange still works if you use it.

tdorst · #4 (**permalink**) October 14th, 2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by persephone1946

We have an extensive library of recipes because of the postings. You can find most anything you want using the search option.

So does Google - the same library in fact. I liked this site for the things that weren't so readily available....

I used to come by every couple of days and look over the last couple of pages for new posts. Now, there are 10 pages each day, and I've noticed a lot of duplication. The same recipes are appearing over and over.

I guess I just believe in quality over quantity.

admin · #5 (**permalink**) October 14th, 2005, 05:36 PM

You are entitled to your opinion and you do have a point. However, I believe it's currently both quality and quantity. The only change is now there are more recipes.

The recipes that aren't readily available are still being posted there every day. My suggestion would be to use the search function to find the type of recipes you're looking for or visit more often.

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Originally Posted by tdorst

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Originally Posted by persephone1946

We have an extensive library of recipes because of the postings. You can find most anything you want using the search option.

So does Google - the same library in fact. I liked this site for the things that weren't so readily available....

I used to come by every couple of days and look over the last couple of pages for new posts. Now, there are 10 pages each day, and I've noticed a lot of duplication. The same recipes are appearing over and over.

I guess I just believe in quality over quantity.

tdorst · #6 (**permalink**) October 14th, 2005, 07:35 PM

I don't want to just sound like a complainer. I know there are still alot of originals on here - I've searched for them, and I still can get a question answered; I just miss being able to browse through a lot of different people's posts in the recipe exchange. I liked the variety of points of view, and the many questions and answers made interesting reading. I just think long lists of recipes could go somewhere else. It they're just being posted to make a comprehensive search database, perhaps that should be a different forum.

admin · #7 (**permalink**) October 14th, 2005, 07:43 PM

It's a tough decision to make. I don't want to discourage people from posting. Let me think it over.

If anyone else has an opinion feel free.

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Originally Posted by tdorst

I don't want to just sound like a complainer. I know there are still alot of originals on here - I've searched for them, and I still can get a question answered; I just miss being able to browse through a lot of different people's posts in the recipe exchange. I liked the variety of points of view, and the many questions and answers made interesting reading. I just think long lists of recipes could go somewhere else. It they're just being posted to make a comprehensive search database, perhaps that should be a different forum.

horselover · #8 (**permalink**) October 14th, 2005, 08:39 PM

I'm with tdorst , I started looking for recipes on this forum because I thought they were recipes the people posting them had tried and liked. There are a lot of sources to get recipes out there, what I would like to see are family favorites like it was when I first started coming on this forum not just another recipe book. If you see a recipe I have posted it is one I have tried and enjoyed making. Maybe you need to make a new discusion for the people like us who are looking for quality not quanity! Nothing against B-man or Kitchen Witch I've tried some of your recipes and loved them,I would just rather get the ones you have tried and liked. I am a field editor for Taste of Home magazine and I think that is why it is such a popular magazine , because the recipes are family favorites.

persephone1946 · #9 (**permalink**) October 14th, 2005, 09:45 PM

No matter what opinion you have it is still a great site. I have lots of recipe sites in my "favorites." But, I still keep coming back to this site. The recipe forum is just one of many threads offered and the search function can help you find anything. Posting a response to the original posted recipe could help anyone find out if it is a recipe that was actually used and the results.

This site is owned by the person who seems to like what is happening. There are many other sites that probably have exactly what you are looking for, but please don't stop using this one because of the quantity. It still is easy to browse the pages and see all that is offered. I tend to browse all the threads everyday and it is not a long process.

AJ

gz · #10 (**permalink**) October 14th, 2005, 11:50 PM

To tdorst... I can't agree with you more. I dont mean to sound rude, but look at this forum from 6months to one year ago, and compare the types of recipes that are being put on now.Just between a.m. and p.m. of today, there are around 12 ( very similar) cheese ball recipes. A lot of repetitive recipes appear and there seems to be a race on between 2 people on this site. There is no quality lately. I just finished making up a beautiful recipe book for my daughter-in-law and it came from recipes from the previous boards. I think it used to be fun to just look down the list and find great things to try and now it is more trouble than it is worth.

patm099 · #11 (**permalink**) October 15th, 2005, 12:22 AM

I, too, like the tried and true and family favorites. But it a real convenience to have such a variety of recipes on one site. The search function comes in handy when you're in a hurry because there are lot of similar recipes.

Perhaps there could be a forum for those TNT recipes only. Or at least noting TNT in the subject would be helpful. If I live to be a hundred, I would never be able to try all the wonderful sounding recipes that have been posted.

It is still an awesome site!

admin · #12 (**permalink**) October 15th, 2005, 11:24 AM

I appreciate all the feedback. I want this to be your forum and your opinion does matter.

What I get from this is - the Recipe Exchange still has a lot of value, but there are many people looking for "tried and true and family favorite recipes."

Here's what I've decided:

- I'm going to start a new Category strictly for recipes which people have personally made.

- I'm going to keep the Recipe Exchange as a place where people can still request recipes and answer the requests of others.

We'll give it a try. The only thing I ask in return is that you participate and actually post some great recipes you've tried.

I'd also like to commend B-Man, Kitchen Witch, Swtness, Aline and all of you for helping to make this forum a great place online.

Warm Regards,

Ron

Kitchen Witch · #13 (**permalink**) October 15th, 2005, 07:46 PM

Yes - I am guilty of sharing many recipes - and some of them have come from my recipe club - recipes that have been used by club members for quite some time.

Unfortunately - many of our recipes do not have special names - for instance - the Cheese Ball recipes - after a while - they just got to be called "Cheese Ball" but they vary in ingredient, amount, etc. My recipe club is guilty of not coming up with more original names for many of our recipes. We just swap recipes and enjoy them. Sorry for any inconvenience.

KW

saralee · #14 (**permalink**) October 20th, 2005, 10:26 PM

Another way to go would to be to take out the "mass quantities" of recipes and put THEM in a nother spot. You see, the recipe forum ALREADY WAS what people wanted; asking them to try all over again is WASTING THE MANY MONTHS OF EFFORT that went into making the recipe forum what people missed. Yes, I also see the value in the mass quantities of recipes that DO seem to be of very high quality, but the "home" quality is what *I* (and, obviously, OTHERS) want here. So, post your mass quantities, but PLEASE put it in another section.

Shadows · #15 (**permalink**) October 31st, 2005, 08:10 PM

I only started using this forum in the last few days... I posted a few of my tried and true recipes only to have them disappear almost instantly several pages back thanks to 2 folks flooding the forum.
Is this not supposed to be for all users and not just a few who can speed post 12 recipes in half as many minutes.

I think I may have made a mistake to become a member here!

persephone1946 · #16 (**permalink**) October 31st, 2005, 09:59 PM

There is a forum called "New" Your Favorite recipes. It is for the "tried and true" recipes. If you decide to stick around for awhile, I think you will find this is a great site.

A J

Stephs · #17 (**permalink**) October 31st, 2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by saralee

So, post your mass quantities, but PLEASE put it in another section.

I agree with this suggestion. you have different forums for a reason. Ingredient forum, the dessert forum and the old recipe forums seem to have died. If you going to post a lot of those recipes at once why not put them where they can be found easier.

kellyburk · #18 (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2005, 03:24 PM

I couldnt agree more....When i first found this site it was nice to think i was looking at recipes that people made and liked,and wanted to share.
But then all it seemed to be was a race to see who could post the most.I found that very dull.
So I missed this whole thread since I have not been here for a while for just that reason. I think some members need to limit their posts and let people that really want to share a recipe have a turn. I would rather try a recipe from a member with a few posts...not 5000...that way i know its something worth trying not a recipe just pasted on.
Im sure these people mean well....but their way is not for me

b-man · #19 (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2005, 05:45 PM

As admin pointed out, you are entitled to your opinion....however your viewpoint of a battle between myself and Kitchen Witch to see who can post the most, is not a fair and equitable analysis. Firstly it is deceptive....nothing could be further from the truth. Secondary to this, and since I became a member, I've posted with the sole intent of sharing and giving back what has been afforded to me. In fact I think it would be safe to say all of the moderators have had many personal thank you PM's and requests. I've spent much time and effort here, simply because I have the time at present, primarily due to recovery of a stroke and other collateral health issues, resulting in an inability to contribute in my workplace. Following this is a personal interest in recipes. There is no race or contest between Kitchen Witch and myself. We have an online respect for one another, and other members. And considering the mega inventory of recipes that Kitchen has acquired over many years, I wouldn't stand a chance at quantity posting. Besides, what would be the point...there is no prize nor is there any personal gain to be derived, for either of us. I don't watch the recipe counter click away, and I'm certain Kitchen Witch doesn't either. This recipe community continues to be a good place for requesting and exchanging recipes. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from making a request or contributing to the site. This site has changed in six months, because it has grown and evolved... into several forums, in which the thought and design was soley to benefit the membership. I think your term "flooding" as a descriptor is greatly lacking in every respect....you and anyone else can post as much or as little as you wish. And I do sincerely thank you for your 9 contributing posts. Before you start to condemn, take a tour through all the forums...look at the hits in Ingredient, in International, in Just Desserts, in Heart & Health, in Your Favorite Recipes, in Kitchen Tips...Recipe Exchange speaks for itself. Those numbers confirm interest and there have been several positive comments, in all the forums. Again, your entitled to your opinion, however myopic that may be. I'm sure it would be safe to say that we all look forward to your continued recipe post contribution(s).

Hey Ron....start a poll survey. Ask the membership for complete input, and let the numbers decide. I have zero problem with limiting posts...lets say 10 a day per member maximum....then and lets let our nay sayers here, step up to the plate and take a turn at moderating, at membership development and providing sufficient interest to keep members coming back, and website development ideas... they assume and maintain that position for a year minimum. In the meantime Ron, find yourself another moderator for the 3 forums I'm involved in. And...not to worry tdorst, and others of the like mindset, I won't post any further recipes....there yah have it folks....yah see...there was no race afterall. So step up to the plate...you got a vacancy to fill .... Adios folks....I'd like to say it has been a pleasure, but...that wouldn't be fair or equitable either.

B-man

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Originally Posted by tdorst

It used to be a good forum for requesting and exchanging recipes, many of them personal. It seems to have turned into the b-man/kitchen witch "who can cut and paste more recipes from other sites on the internet" battle. Maybe this kind of board flooding can go on in a different forum? Maybe just put a limit to the size of floods allowed?

Shadows · #20 (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by persephone1946

We have an extensive library of recipes because of the postings. You can find most anything you want using the search option.

Have a good day.
AJ

Have you tried to search for a recipe from one of the 2 folks that put 10 to 15 recipes in one post... it don't happen! You can only find the topic recipe not the individual ones .

Kitchen Witch · #21 (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2005, 08:03 PM

This is a growing site - filled with many recipes from many wonderful people.

There are complaints about the number or recipes posted - well - what is more important - reading the many different types of recipes that are posted - or complaining because some individuals want to share more than others?

To me - the recipe is what is important - not the name of the person that posted it.

I have posted recipes individually - and there are complaints because there are too many to go through. I have posted recipes to "Sticky" posts and there are still complaints because you cannot find such recipes in the search option.

Looks like you just can't please some people.

What happens when this site really gets going and there are ten times the amount of recipes than we have now????

Would I prefer to read a cookbook with 100 recipes or a cookbook with 1000 recipes? I prefer the books with the most recipes and ideas. Why? Because I happen to have to enjoy recipes very much - whether I am reading a cookbook or this site. I enjoy the different recipes and ideas that are shared here and I enjoy sharing what I have to share. And I am quite sure that B Man also wanted to share.

We never competed with each other and we never thought that we were competing in any way. We believe in sharing.

Shadows · #22 (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2005, 08:09 PM

I never said you were, what I said was as soon as another member posts the 2 of you flood the site with multi- recipe posts moving other folks posts pages back where they are hard to find. You can't search if you don't know it is here in the first place.

AND the search does not work when you have multi recipes in one post!

wildbillcudas · #23 (**permalink**) November 3rd, 2005, 12:11 AM

I simply could not believe what I read in regards to
flooding,

submitted by the "recipe buddy."

Stop and think about what life was like after the "GREAT FLOOD" In the short time that I have been a member, I sure have learned alot. As Thumper has said..."If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all."[/u]

persephone1946 · #24 (**permalink**) November 3rd, 2005, 11:24 AM

I find it odd that there are a few "discontents" on a free site because of the generousity of people.

I never thought I would say this when not at work, but here goes, "If you don't like it here no one is going to make you stay here."

Ms Kitchenwitch you are so generous and no one should fault your generousity, so as I have said in the past, Keep On Posting!

AJ

nebulized · #25 (**permalink**) November 5th, 2005, 02:56 PM

I don't want anyone to start pointing fingers at me. I've been posting around 5 or 6 recipes daily but don't want any backlash by anyone. I guess I'll just hold off any posting until I know for sure what has been decided.

Kitchen Witch · #26 (**permalink**) November 5th, 2005, 03:08 PM

nebulized -

this is a forum where we share our recipes and ideas with each other - and that is what makes this site a great site -

remember - it is not WHO posted the recipe - it is the recipe itself - this is still a new site and there will be growing pains - I have the maturity to understand that in due time this will all be rectified - Ron has his plans and knows what to do - and he knows that I will help him in anyway I can and so will B Man - who we need to get back here! In the meantime - point fingers at me - I don't care -

a recipe is a recipe - some are better than others and only in the viewers eyes - not everyone has the same tastes - if you don't like the recipe then look for a different one or tweak it your way -

we need to keep this site fresh - other sites have gone to pot because of lack of activity and nothing new ever being posted -

no one is pointing any fingers at you - you post your little heart out with recipes - that is what this site is for

we also need to appreciate each others contributions to this site and not get petty - only positive things should be said about fellow members

I am looking forward to seeing more of your posts!

Kitchen Witch

nebulized · #27 (**permalink**) November 5th, 2005, 03:15 PM

Okay, thanks so much. Just wanted to make sure. I love this site and all the great recipes and love contributing to it.

jackie

Kitchen Witch · #28 (**permalink**) November 5th, 2005, 03:18 PM

YOU GO GIRL!!!!! THAT'S THE ATTITUDE!!!!!!!!!!!

looking forward to your posts!!!!

Kitchen Witch

Shadows · #29 (**permalink**) November 5th, 2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nebulized

I don't want anyone to start pointing fingers at me. I've been posting around 5 or 6 recipes daily but don't want any backlash by anyone. I guess I'll just hold off any posting until I know for sure what has been decided.

Post away friend! It is not the posting of recipes that has some of us in an uproar it is the speed posting of several pages of recipes that is upsetting... I posted over 20 recipes today but not all in a row or all in the same post or topic.

b-man · #30 (**permalink**) November 5th, 2005, 07:43 PM

Hi nebulized...

You don't ever have to worry about the number of posts you make or how fast you post them ... those are non-issues. This site is owned/operated by Mr. R.on Dou.glas. He established this site with the intent of it's members to post and share recipes. It has grown greatly since it's inception and it will continue to grow and evolve. Any directive concerning posting or quantative posting will come from Mr. Douglas, and not the petty wishes and rants of a clear minority! What one views as a quality post and another views as lacking quality, is moot. If we were to examine a cross-section of this membership, we'd easily discover that there are people from all walks of life....some folks prefer simple, down to earth, dishes. Not all people would like or even entertain a dish such as Coquille St. Jacques, much less like it if they tried the recipe. There will be MANY people that like and appreciate "cheese balls" or plain and simple meat and taters ... and so that type of recipe is appealing to them. It matters not what the recipe is, nor how many of them you posted, nor which page it sits on .... be assured your recipe will be discovered and appreciated.
Post as many as you want, and at whatever speed of posting you want. Ignore the minority....every single recipe post here has value, and thus quality.

B-man

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Originally Posted by nebulized

I don't want anyone to start pointing fingers at me. I've been posting around 5 or 6 recipes daily but don't want any backlash by anyone. I guess I'll just hold off any posting until I know for sure what has been decided.

kellyburk · #31 (**permalink**) November 5th, 2005, 08:39 PM

Wow....a few people exspress a opinion, and they are called petty wishes and rants. Thats nothing but a rude thing to say, everyone has a right to their view point no matter how many posts they have made.
Yes I have a only made a few, 2 recipes i have posted.I have asked for none in return. But I made sure I posted some incase I did ever request one. Yes those 2 little recipes I posted I typed myself, I liked them ,and typed them out myself.No I didnt google and paste them.But thats my way. To each there own.......Everyone should be able to voice a opinion, none of us are right or wrong, just have diff ideas of what they would like this site to be about.

persephone1946 · #32 (**permalink**) November 5th, 2005, 10:09 PM

nebulized, you keep on posting. Don't let a few "people" keep you from enjoying the site.

Thank you Kitchen Witch for all the positiveness and mr. B-man glad to see you back. Here's hoping you will keep coming in more often.
A J

admin · #33 (**permalink**) November 5th, 2005, 10:57 PM

Lets put an end to this. This is not leading anywhere and it is counter-productive. Everyone's opinion has been noted and taken into consideration.

I encourage everyone to post - that is what I call contributing. Whether it is typed or copied, tried or not, it is still sharing.

There is no race to see who can get the most posts. There is no prize for that. I've made a few people moderators based on the amount of time they spend on the forum and the ideas they've contributed. Not based on quantity.

My decision was to make a seperate forum for "Tried and True Recipes" and that is the "My Favorite Recipes" section.

If that is what you're looking for it is there for you.

I've respectfully done what I felt was best for everyone. Any futher bickering on this subject will be deleted.

If anyone needs clarification they can send me a PM.

Ron Douglas

b-man · #34 (**permalink**) November 6th, 2005, 12:05 AM

I agree entirely with your posted comments Ron. We all need to move forward and leave this scenario behind and forgotten. I intend to.

B-man

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Originally Posted by admin1

Lets put an end to this. This is not leading anywhere and it is counter-productive. Everyone's opinion has been noted and taken into consideration.

I encourage everyone to post - that is what I call contributing. Whether it is typed or copied, tried or not, it is still sharing.

There is no race to see who can get the most posts. There is no prize for that. I've made a few people moderators based on the amount of time they spend on the forum and the ideas they've contributed. Not based on quantity.

My decision was to make a seperate forum for "Tried and True Recipes" and that is the "My Favorite Recipes" section.

If that is what you're looking for it is there for you.

I've respectfully done what I felt was best for everyone. Any futher bickering on this subject will be deleted.

If anyone needs clarification they can send me a PM.

rd

Cowgirl · #35 (**permalink**) November 6th, 2005, 10:45 AM

The best site on the web but it wouldn't be complete without you... Cowgirl

Kitchen Witch · #36 (**permalink**) November 6th, 2005, 11:12 AM

Like I have said before - this is really a wonderful site! There is so much that has been shared and much more to be shared. It is the participation of the active members that make this site what it is.

Every type of recipe and cooking/baking hint is welcomed here. There is no one cookbook on the market that has what this site has to offer. Sure - there are many recipes that have been copied/pasted from other recipe sites on the net - but there are many original recipes, oldies and unusual as well. Soon there will probably more of the original, oldies and unusual!

I am one person with such a vast library and so many recipes to share! And it's nice to hear from other members that they appreciate many of them. And I know that B Man must also feel the same way. He is another very active member (and a great moderator) with much to share that has been appreciated.

This is a very positive site - and the members are wonderful people.

Only positive comments will be allowed in my threads - I will delete the negative - there is no reason for any of it.

Keep sharing your recipes - let's make this the #1 recipe site on the net!

Kitchen Witch